We older women in Europe are lucky not to be shoved away in a drawer.

Thank God we're not like America. Everyone wants to look like they're 20. In Europe we admire grown-up women I think men revere older women.

I think older women still have a full life.

Older women are like aging strudels - the crust may not be so lovely but the filling has come at last into its own.

There are older men with younger women but you don't see a lot of older women with younger men. There are some women who have been able to do it but not often.

Ageism works in both directions. As a teenager in the public eye people would talk condescendingly to me. When you get older there's this feeling that you have to start carving up your face and body. Right now I'm in the middle ground - I think women in their thirties are taken seriously.

It's so clear that you have to cherish everyone. I think that's what I get from these older black women that every soul is to be cherished that every flower Is to bloom.

I don't want to put a pause on the rest of my life I'm really enjoying getting older and the wisdom that comes from that.

Now it is time to turn to an older wisdom that while respecting material comfort and security as a basic right of all also recognises that many of the most valuable things in life cannot be measured.

Your art kind of changes as you get older by nature of the fact that you're hopefully gaining wisdom and you're starting to watch things with a better overview.