When I first left university I thought about going into the private sector. But I discovered when I went to interview that I could only have a career in the back office or doing HR. The attitude was 'My dear lady you cannot possibly think about going on the board.'

In 1977 at least he wished to have people believe that he shared and was proud of an attitude toward women that is not acceptable in a politician. In 2003 all he has said is that he doesn't remember the interview.

I used to do a lot of interviews in the early '80s when my career started but it came to a point when I decided I didn't want to talk anymore and people kind of understood that and left me alone.

I'm asked all the time in interviews about who I am and I know a few people my age who have a strong sense of self but I couldn't say I know myself and sum it up and give it to you in a little package. I don't know myself at all yet.