I could have been more famous if I did all the glitzy things but celebrity always seemed so unnecessary.

The gays like 'Project Runway' because it's a fashion and the gays are into fashion and into design. It's a creative industry and most of the gays are pretty creative in general. That's just like the culture. We're not all into politics necessarily. We're more into the creative environment. I also think Heidi is a big draw. The boys love Heidi and think she's so fabulous. I just think it's a glitzy fun show and there are also always lots of gay boys on it and you know that's fun.