I remember we woke up one morning at Denny's house and John Phillips called. He said you guys okay? We said yeah what's wrong what's going on? He said well everybody's dead over at Sharon's house at Terry Melcher's place.

On Memorial Day I was out floating on Lake Norman and came across Denny Hamlin. We struck up a conversation and one of the first things we were talking about was how much it helped him when he started racing the Cup car and how much it helped his Nationwide program.