The way I look at it everything is a trade. You acquire some money so then you've got no financial burdens but everyone wants your money and so who can you trust? Or you've got no money and you can trust anyone but then you've got the worry to pay bills. Which is worse?

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Domestic discretionary spending on education and health care and the environment has been growing at 2 to 3 percent a year. He says we have to rein it in but he ignores the spending category that is the big spike in the budget.