I've got five kids and I'm married Tommy's got two kids and he's been married Vince just got married again Mick's out of a relationship Tommy's single as well. We've done a lot in our life we've covered a lot of miles.

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Institutions develop because people put a lot of trust in them they meet real needs they represent important aspirations whether it's monasteries media or banks people begin by trusting these institutions and gradually the suspicion develops that actually they're working for themselves not for the community.