I think that concrete poetry seems to have as far as I can see come to a kind of a dead end. It doesn't seem to be going any further than it went in its high period of about five or six years ago.

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I love to listen to pop music and I admire people who do that but I don't think I would ever be a very good pop star. I always leave that singing voice for the shower! I wouldn't put it out in the world!