It's kind of interesting because hacking is a skill that could be used for criminal purposes or legitimate purposes and so even though in the past I was hacking for the curiosity and the thrill to get a bite of the forbidden fruit of knowledge I'm now working in the security field as a public speaker.

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Something's happened in our society which I don't think is beneficial and that's that you see the public being fed box-office news. Newscasts now every local station - I've been traveling around the country a lot and you see the local news and they give box-office reports.