There's no difference between fame and infamy now. There's a new school of professional famous people that don't do anything. They don't create anything.

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I mean I was just one of the ones who got exposed and because of the position I was in where I was in my life it went mainstream. A lot of people got out of it after my situation not because I went to prison but because it was sad for them to see me go through something that was so pointless that could have been avoided.