My background was computer science and business school so eventually I worked my way up where I was running product groups - development testing marketing user education.

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It's interesting that I had such a close relationship with my grandfather. Because your parents always judge you: they say 'You shouldn't do this you shouldn't do that.' But with your grandparents you have a feeling that you can say anything or you can do anything and they will support you. That's why you have this kind of connection.